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Wednesday, November 24, 2010

Since Tuesday’s podcast was about the expansion of user input into geodatasets, the news Tuesday afternoon that OpenStreetMap’s founder Steve Coast has joined Microsoft’s Bing Mobile Team seemed serendipitous. But, that was not the only news about OSM: Microsoft will provide imagery to that crowdsourced mapping project.

James Fee was the first out of the gate with this prediction about the future on his blog:

Between the OSM mappers, MapQuest, Microsoft and all the others who are part of the open project; I see no way OSM doesn’t become the dominate [dominant] mapping data source for all users moving forward.  And you know who wins, everyone who wants free and open data. 

That’s bold. And, he may be right. But, I’m not as convinced. Why will Microsoft’s participation in OSM matter so much? First off, what is its participation? For now, per the Bing Maps blog here’s what we know:

As a Principal Architect for Bing Mobile, Steve will help develop better mapping experiences for our customers and partners, and lead efforts to engage with OpenStreetMap and other open source and open data projects.  As a first step in this engagement, we plan to enable access to Bing’s global orthorectified aerial imagery, as a backdrop of OSM editors. Also, Microsoft is working on new tools to better enable contributions to OSM.

Those two first steps are good ones. That imagery can be "traced" by folks anywhere in the world to help fill out and enhance the basemap. And, as many have found, the tools for editing OSM (Potlatch and JOSM) can be cranky. I’ve heard the ArcGIS extension for ArcGIS can be a challenge, for some, too.

But can Microsoft’s efforts activate a larger active community than OpenStreetMap, Cloudmade, and most recently AOL have? Will those individuals have the passion worldwide to do the work that’s been done so well in Germany and the UK (two countries were AOL uses OSM data in MapQuest)? Can Microsoft as a company rally the volunteer troops? Do you recall Microsoft’s last misguided crowdsourced effort? The Windows 7 launch parties? (See The Guardian coverage, but I just recall all the laughs I heard on Buzz Out Loud.) How about its effort to pay users to use Bing as a search tool? No, to date, Microsoft has not inspired the kind of loyalty and devotion and respect as some other players.

While some continue to "hate on" Google for its MapMaker efforts (GPS Business News noted its disapproval this week), others think that the MapMaker data is in fact the source for Google’s US datasets (SlashGeo offered that incorrect assumption). While there are always naysayers about Esri, I continue to be impressed by how many organizations are lining up to fill its Community Maps Program (map of them).

I think one or two more tools are needed for OSM to the coverage and quality required to be useful worldwide. One tool/technology needs to provide passive data capture. A company like waze, for example, that can encourage users to simply switch on their phone and be tracked would be a nice addition. So, too, would a company with a tool to integrate and quickly conflate all the data that come in. The reason that TomTom (Tele Atlas) and Nokia (NAVTEQ) are now "poo-pooed" is simply because their datasets are dated. Why are they dated? Because they are vetted, which takes time. The company that can provide that quick but "good enough" filter to to pull the mix of data from its various sources and pump it back out to users will win. I don’t think OSM has all the data inputs needed, nor the paid and unpaid staff needed, nor the smart software needed to win this competition. Not yet anyway, but clearly their backers are slowly adding to their dowry.

And, one final thought. I’ve seen many very smart, successful and well-known geospatial practitioners join big important companies with big plans and big ideas. And, I’ve seen them work hard, bang their heads against the wall, and ultimately leave for the next opportunity. And, I’ve seen other very smart geospatial practitioners do their work at small companies, have some sway in those companies, and have impacts on our industry that many of us cannot even identify.  I do wish Steve Coast, as I did the many to whom I refer here, the best of luck in his new position.

by Adena Schutzberg on 11/24 at 06:00 AM | Comments | Bookmark and Share

Tuesday, May 11, 2010

This week our editors turn their attention to branding in the geospatial world, in particular how companies position their #1 and #2 and perhaps #3 offerings in several categories of geospatial offerings. How are the #2s doing from a branding perspective? In short, there is room for improvement. Editor in Chief Joe Francica and Executive Editor Adena Schutzberg examine the branding challenges in categories like GIS software, worldwide data, LBS gaming, weather and generic locators.


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by Adena Schutzberg on 05/11 at 06:00 AM | Comments | Bookmark and Share

Tuesday, April 13, 2010

Late last week Nokia announced it acquired MetaCarta, a company that could organize unstructured text by teasing out location information within. MetaCarta served government, oil and gas and media clients, so what exactly will mobile services and hardware provider Nokia do with it?

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by Adena Schutzberg on 04/13 at 01:00 AM | Comments | Bookmark and Share

Tuesday, March 16, 2010

Update: It seems Michael Jones of Google found the Wayne Independant story and updated the one way street on Google Maps. Per the paper, he looks for such stories everyday. Apparently MapQuest has also been notified.

By the way, the original story didn’t even mention Google or Google Maps, just “GPS.” Notes the paper in updating the story: “While Google Maps is not used in most vehicle GPS devices, Google Maps is used in about 270 kinds of mobile phones, Jones said.”

Also, comments from the original article include one from a NAVTEQ rep who confirmed the change had been made in their database, too. That was not mentioned in the update article, which is too bad; good job NAVTEQ! So, it looks like Google and NAVTEQ are “watching” for such issues; anyone else?

- Wayne Indepenant

—- original post 3/12/10——

“No one told the GPS satellite about Honesdale’s new one-way traffic pattern.”
“Attempts to find someone in charge of GPS has not been successful.”

- Peter Becker noting how local officials in Honesdale, PA are not being successful in finding someone to update maps in GPS devices to reflect one-way streets, in the Wayne Independant

These explanations may help Mr. Becker and Coucilman Jennings find satisfaction:

The GPS system is run by the Air Force. It uses twenty odd satellites that send signals to devices called GPS receivers. The receivers use the signals to determine the location of the receiver. Then, maps and software on the receivers create the routes.

So, the people you really need to contact to get the maps updated are the two main companies that provides those maps: NAVTEQ and Tele Atlas. Both have online tools to report such errors, but you might want to talk to someone.

by Adena Schutzberg on 03/16 at 07:38 AM | Comments | Bookmark and Share
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Wednesday, January 27, 2010

This week, DMTV takes a look at location-based services discussed at the Consumer Electronics Show in early January. The car manufacturers were pushing more Internet connectivity with a concept called the "connected automobile" while geospatial technology providers like NAVTEQ (NAVTEQ True) and Tele Atlas (ADAS) were touting 3D data for better car performance and driver enhancements for navigation. Ford CEO Alan Mulally provided insights on Ford’s new technlogy to enhance the driver experience in apps that work with Microsoft Sync and other innovations included with "myFord." Editor in chief Joe Francica provides a synopsis of the news and his take on why 3D data are a must.

by Joe Francica on 01/27 at 05:00 AM | Comments | Bookmark and Share
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